Episode #30 - The Pelvic Health and Fitness Podcast is 1-year old! Ask us anything!

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In this episode, Rhonda and Dayna answer your questions as a way to celebrate one year of the podcast!

We answer your questions such as:

👩‍👦 What have been the most rewarding and most challenging parts of #momlife?
🤰🏻 Were your two pregnancies similar or different?
💪🏻 Should everyone do kegels?
🏋🏿‍♀️ How do we fit our workouts in as busy moms?
🤷🏽‍♀️ How do we “do it all?”
🏃🏽‍♀️ If I have pelvic floor symptoms, should I avoid exercise/ running/ weight lifting?
❤️‍🔥 If I have a prolapse, should I avoid sex?
🤩 What is our guilty pleasure?
🍫 What are our favourite go-to snacks?

Mentioned in the episode:
1. Listen to Episode #28 - Should I contract my pelvic floor to 100% with exercise?

2. Purchase Rhonda’s Strong at Home Summer PDF

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  • Episode #30 - The Pelvic Health and Fitness Podcast is 1-year old! Ask us anything!

    Hey podcast friends, Rhonda here. Just a quick announcement before we head into today's episode. So I put out a poll on Instagram a little while ago asking if you all would appreciate some home workouts you can do this summer using only dumbbells. And I had a really great response from that, that many of you would appreciate that.

    So I created what I'm calling strong at home summer and what this is is a PDF guide With six weeks of workouts using only dumbbells that you can do this summer at home outside If you're on vacation, you can do these with you as well So it will be two workouts a week with an option to do your own form of movement on a third day For example, going for a walk, playing a sport, swimming, swimming with your kids and each of the workouts will have YouTube links with myself demoing the movements so you're not left wondering what these movements mean.

    Um, there will be an accountability tracker form on the last page if you want to use that. If you think it's something that might help, if not, feel free to skip that. And then at the end of the six weeks, if you send me a copy of your tracking sheet, even if not all the workouts are complete, then your name will get put into a draw to win a surprise.

    Um, so this will be a paid PDF at a super low cost. It will be a pay what you can type deal with payments ranging from five dollars up to twenty five dollars So if you're able to pay a little bit more you're in a position to do that Then that will help cover your friends that are paying five dollars.

    So sort of like a pay it forward type thing Um, so the strong at home summer PDF is available for purchase starting today, Monday, July 18th, and I'll put a link in the show notes to purchase or check out my website, Rhonda Chamberlain pt. com slash strong at home summer to buy that today. All right.

    That's all for now. Let's get into today's episode.

    We're excited to have you join us for this episode of Pelvic Health and Fitness. I'm Dayna Morellato, Mom, Orthopedic and Pelvic Health Physiotherapist. And I'm Rhonda Chamberlain, Mom, Orthopedic Physiotherapist and Pre Postnatal Fitness Coach. On this show, we have open and honest conversations about all phases of motherhood, including fertility, pregnancy, birth, postpartum, menopause, and everything in between.

    We also provide helpful education and information on fitness, the pelvic floor, and many aspects of women's health, including physical, mental, and emotional wellness. Please remember as you listen to this podcast that this is not meant to treat or diagnose any medical conditions. Please contact your medical provider if you have specific questions or concerns.

    Thanks so much for joining us. Grab a cup of coffee. Or wine. And enjoy!

    Hello everybody. Welcome to the pelvic health and fitness podcast, where today we are celebrating our one year anniversary, and we are going to be answering some questions that came in from our social media posts. So some of these are about pelvic floor physio or rehab exercise.

    Some of them are just about, uh, our own personal experience with motherhood. Um, and some just random facts about us, I guess. So, the first question that we got was what is our favourite part and our most challenging part about hashtag mom life, so I'm going to let you lead that, Rhonda. Alright, so I would say my favourite part right now and I guess it's all stage dependent, but I get so much joy out of watching my two girls play together.

    I mean, it's not always good playing. There's some fighting in there, but when they're being so sweet and they are coming up with little games and they play house and they, um, just make believe and they do all such fun things. And it's just. melts my heart and it's nice for me too because they will go off and play independently together for a while.

    Um, so that is pretty cool. And kind of what I pictured when I had two girls, um, I come from a family, it's just me and my sister and we were always super close. And I want that for my girls. I mean, I can't, you know, control that. That might not always be a thing, but for now, they are little besties and it's just so, so cute.

    Um, so the most challenging part of hashtag mom life is also what I'm living through right now, which is the three major phase. And Tegan is in a phase where she is almost three. She even more so than Sadie was just wants to be so independent and just doesn't want help and wants to do everything herself.

    So the biggest one right now is getting dressed. So she wants to get dressed by herself, but she struggles to do it because she's not quite three. And so, you know, I get in there to try to help her and she's pushing me away and hitting me away. And it's a struggle, so the mornings are a tad stressful. Um, so I would say those are the biggest struggles, is that, that transition from them being toddlers to trying to be little independent kiddos.

    And, uh, it's a bit of a struggle, which I know you can relate, Dayna. Yes. Yeah. Three Nature is real. It is. Um, my favourite part right now is watching my kids. Do activities and play sports and just watching them sort of figure out different skills. You know, they're both playing soccer this spring and into the summer.

    And, um, my son, he's three and a half and is playing rugby. Now, before you come at me, there's it's flag. Okay, so there's no tackling. Um, but just watching them run and jump and like my daughter has better ball handling skills than I do. It's fascinating. You know, she's five and a half and I just think it's so cool to watch, um, as well as just their interactions with their classmates and their teammates.

    It's just so cool to, um, to see. The most challenging part. I'm right there with you with my son, Nolan. He is three and a half, and we seem to have entered, like, a really tough moment, actually, particularly. He's throwing the most epic meltdowns, uh, that he's had, so. Yikes. It sometimes is exhausting, really, really challenging.

    With my daughter right now, I would say it's trying to balance her being independent. She wants to be a little bit more independent, but she's still a very little girl. And so just making sure that we like, sort of ride that line between still boundaries, but then also trying to foster her independence and letting her make her, some of her decisions.

    Uh, it's a tricky line. I didn't think I There would be at five and it's not like anything big and life decisions, but sometimes I find myself saying, no, you can't do that. Just because I don't think we have time for it in the moment. And I'm a little bit type a, uh, but then, so just trying to be a little bit more go with the flow and give her some room to.

    Make your own decisions and go at our own pace. And you know what, if we're five minutes late for school, the world won't end Dayna. So let's just let it happen. Little pep talk for yourself. It's so true. Love it. So the next one that came in is what are some things you wish you knew when you were pregnant?

    So I'll throw it back to you again. Oh gosh, so much. So, biggest misconception I think about me as a pelvic physio is that I knew everything I know now when I was pregnant, especially with my daughter, my first, uh, five and a half years ago, I didn't know anything. Um, I wish I had known to just be a little bit more gentle with myself.

    Uh, even though I felt really well, I think I probably ended up pushing myself a little bit in terms of exercise. Um, and that carried into postpartum, um. And even maybe with my second pregnancy, I remember feeling quite bad. I felt a little bit badly about myself if I'm being completely honest, because I wasn't as active.

    I didn't look like in my mind, I didn't have like the cute little bump, like I had the first time I was just swollen all over. So I think I just wish I knew how to be a little bit more easy, easy on myself in terms of like, you know, mental health, emotional health, but also be more gentle with myself physically.

    Yeah. Yeah, I am right there with you. And similarly, I didn't learn any of this pelvic health information until after both of my kids. And yes, I definitely had sort of that athlete brain drug pregnancy, almost trying to prove my fitness and prove that I was still hardcore. Throughout my pregnancy, not to say I did anything particularly dangerous, but definitely wasn't mindful of my pelvic floor because I truly didn't really know it existed.

    I knew it existed, but I didn't really know what to do to keep it. Um, feeling, you know, yeah, like just preparing for postpartum and just long term pelvic health. I had, didn't think that think of that. So, um, same as you just being more gentle with myself and not really realizing like that I have to prove my fitness to anyone to myself or to anyone else, um, and just enjoy the pregnancy.

    And I wish, which looking back, I don't know if I would have done this anyways, but I wish I had learned a little bit more about like what parts. Postpartum was going to look like. Um, I feel like I was so clueless about, yeah, what it would take to recover postpartum. I just thought because, you know, society told me I was just going to bounce right back and I trained for my birth that my postpartum was just going to be a breeze.

    And it wasn't. So I felt like I was thrown for a loop and yeah, just, I guess, wish I had the forethought to kind of just do some research, but, um, hindsight is 2020. Yeah. All right. Um, this is when I, when I get quite frequently, even in clinic, um, where both of your births or your pregnancies, the same, same body, right?

    Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mine were somewhat the same, but somewhat different. I would say I thought we were having a boy the second time because there were certain things that were different. My morning sickness went away faster the second time with Sadie. It lasted like 16, 17 weeks with Tegan right around that 12 week mark.

    It was gone. So I thought, Oh, that's interesting. Maybe that's means it's a different gender, but obviously that wasn't true. Um, much of it was the same. The morning sickness, um, the lack of appetite was the same. Um, birth wise, they were different in the sense that Sadie was quote unquote, a natural birth. I didn't have any intervention with Tegan.

    My Amniotic fluids were low. So they induced me. So that in and of itself was a different experience having an induction. So, but once I, um, when I guess into labor and the push phase that was similar, Tegan was a little bit faster, but otherwise pretty similar. So yeah, I guess I'd say like mostly the same, but some differences too.

    How about you? No. Very different. My pregnancies were both different. I mean, I was lucky both times. I didn't have Nausea or vomiting at all. Really, like the odd, like, oops, that molar seemed very far back when I was brushing my teeth in the morning. But other than that, like, not too bad. So I was very blessed that way.

    Um, Kara, my first was breeze, honestly. I felt, oh gosh, like breeze right through. And again, coming back, going back to my last answer. Wish I would have just still known that I should take it a little bit easier, but I probably did everything. I said yes to everything. I did all the workouts. I, you know, thrived on that.

    Um, yeah, that thrived on sort of that like positivity that comes from doing that. Now my birth was pretty standard. I can't say that it was a bad experience. I labored for about 12 hours. I pushed for, uh, I think 15 minutes or something with her. Um, and had a relatively Uh, good, felt good to me and everybody thought it was a good vaginal delivery, no complications.

    Um, my son, I felt pretty awful if I'm being honest physically the entire time. I wouldn't have said that at the time. Again, I was not being gentle with myself. I was sort of beating myself up about not feeling as good, not being as active. I was horrendously fatigued the whole time with him. Whereas it sort of lifted with Cara.

    Um, You know, after that 12 weeks or so with Nolan, I was horribly fatigued the whole time. I was so hot. And if you know me, I'm always cold. I apologize to my dad and my husband about complaining about air conditioning. I just thought, Oh my God, I'm cooking internally. This is it. Um, I was swollen. I was super puffy.

    Um. And worried that because I hadn't been active and hadn't trained for my birth that it was going to be this awful experience and my birth was relatively the same. Yeah. Oh, it was a little bit shorter. I pushed three times, had a good outcome, no tearing, um, good recovery, much more gentle with myself the second time postpartum, but yeah.

    Yeah. Yeah. All right. Should everyone do Kegels? Um, so I actually just finish it, finished editing a podcast that we did about this. Um, so if you want to go back in time, um, talking about that, it was more in relation to with exercise. And this is something that we talk about often on the podcast. So. So. Um, I'm curious to hear kind of your answer here too, Dayna, but I would say, you know, everyone can try Kegels.

    It's not that it's dangerous if you do Kegels and it's going to make your symptoms worse, but I would say they're, they might not be needed or necessary for absolutely everyone. Um, so we've talked on the podcast before that. Yes, it is important to strengthen our pelvic floor muscles, but equally important to learn to lengthen and relax those muscles.

    So many of us, myself included, have a tendency to live in a lot of tone in our pelvic floor. So we're always holding and gripping, uh, those muscles. So then for someone like me, um, doing Kegels on top of that sometimes can make my prolapse symptoms worse. Um, can just lead to just. Feeling tight and not feeling great.

    So, um, yeah. So I would say, you know, again, it's not unsafe for everyone to try them, but it's not necessary for everybody. What do you say? Yes, absolutely. I think like you said, it has to just be about balance. You need to know how to contract your pelvic floor and you need to know how to relax your pelvic floor and sort of.

    It can be helpful to know if you have any symptoms, what is causing them. And, and what I think a lot of people are surprised to learn is that some of the symptoms that we typically associate with being weak, leaking, urgency, frequency of the bladder or, or the bowels, um, heaviness are associated with weakness and they can just as readily be caused by elevated tension.

    Right. With that being said, I also don't think that we should, we should. tell people to never do a Kegel because we need to make sure that we have that brain muscle connection and sort of be able to contract it in the right scenarios. Um, you know, and that can differ for anybody, but I sort of like, Yeah.

    I don't like blanket statements. Never do X, Y, or Z. Um, I think that there's a time and place and it'd be like telling somebody, well, your bicep is tight, so don't ever do a bicep curl, but then you're using that muscle every day. So that's not realistic. Yeah. It's not realistic. And I always come to the bicep.

    It's my like number one comparison for, I think we all should know how to do Kegels, how to do a reverse Kegel or relax your tension. And then have a good idea of, you know, where, what our symptoms are maybe caused by for sure. And I think that's, that's where, um, booking in to see an internal therapist is helpful to you, right?

    To see, yeah, what is sort of like that resting tone and are you doing a Kegel correctly? Or are you bearing down, which is common, right? So learning about your internal body is. It's great. Um, I mean, it's maybe not accessible for everybody or not. Everyone's interested in that. So you don't have to do that, but it is a great way to just learn more about your body.

    A hundred percent. Yeah. All right. So the next one is, um, this is a good one for both of us is how do we fit our workouts in? Um, I love this question. This is like my bread and butter and what I talk about a lot in my strong at home membership. So I really struggled with this, especially after Tegan. So after Sadie, you know, just had one kiddo and I was able to kind of get back to a somewhat normal workout schedule, uh, mind you at the time I was working at a CrossFit gym.

    So, you know, I could work out at work, which made it easier. After Tegan, I don't know if you found this Dayna, but all of a sudden I was like, Oh my goodness. How do people work out with two kids? It just was like totally different ball game and really struggled to get out of the house and just find that time was hard.

    Um, and again, for me on top of that, I had prolapse symptoms and I was dealing with some abdominal cramping with my workout. I was in panic mode and trying to figure out like, Hey, what is exercise supposed to look like now with two kids? And so for me, it was all about ditching the all or nothing mindset.

    So it was very much like either I'm hardcore working out five, six days a week, or I'm doing nothing. It was like, there was no middle ground for me. Um, so learning to ditch that mindset of all or nothing was. Huge and recognizing that all movement counts. We've talked about that on the podcast a lot. So for me, it was, especially in those early phases, it's like, do I have 10 minutes, what can I get done in 10 minutes?

    So I would, you know, jot down two to three movements and just move my body for 10 minutes and have that be good enough. So that was especially true in the early phases. And I would say still now, I got so used to just having like really short, quick workouts. That felt so sustainable for me that that's truthfully what I still do to this day.

    Sometimes I'll do a bit of a longer workout. Um, for me, walking is something I truly, truly love these days. So I'll try to get out for a walk, you know, three, four days a week. And sometimes again, that's only like 10, 15 minutes. So just recognizing all movement counts and just finding things that you love to do, um, is a big one as well.

    Um, doing workouts with your kids around, which isn't always ideal, but you know, as my kids get older, it gets easier because they kind of join in and it's. fun. Um, still can be annoying. And sometimes I'm like, okay, go watch your iPad and let mommy do her workout. Um, so again, it's just finding that middle ground and recognizing it's not going to be perfect, recognizing it's not going to look anything like your pre baby workouts did.

    Um, it can, I mean, not to say that's never going to be true, but, um, just having that flexibility, um, understanding it's. Yeah. It's just going to have to be flexible and just make it work. Yes. All of that. Yeah. Stop changing your clothes. Yes. I forgot that one. That's my big one too. I remember actually seeing, um, just watching Jessie Mundell one day, probably after Nolan my second was born and thinking, oh my goodness, it was like an epiphany.

    I don't have to wait until nap time. Nap time. If you are listening is your time. If that is when you want to work out and you feel that works for you and that feels good to you, power on. But if you're someone like me who needs rest and to sort of just sit in quiet, or maybe accomplish something in your house to sort of settle your anxiety in your mind, you need that sort of either like a little bit of productivity or Nothing work out when your kids are awake.

    Um, that's a, that was a game changer for me and it still is. And now my kids are a little bit older than just babies, right? They're three and a half and five and a half. And I sometimes, yes, I'm stopping 19 times to get snacks and get the right thing on the iPad. Or if we're outside, put somebody on the trampoline or something like that.

    But it's also, I think, a positive thing for them to see mommy doing a workout and taking care of her body and it's something important for her. And I also will make it clear that this, the next 20 minutes is mommy's time. Yeah. I can help you with X, Y, or Z, but please try to play with your 80 million toys while I take this 20 minutes to myself.

    And I'm, yeah, like I'm not a hard ass. But like, that's a boundary that I'm setting with them for that 20 minutes. If you want, you know, I'm going to play with you for the rest of the day, but I'm going to take these 20 minutes to just take my body through some movement. Sometimes my daughter does it with me now, which is super cool.

    I think so. Cool. So yeah. Yeah, no, I think that is so good to just teach kids that, yeah, we have to prioritize ourselves. First, sometimes, right? Like maybe not even necessarily first, but just have ourselves in mind. I think a lot of moms just don't even have themselves on a priority list. Right. So we matter.

    Yeah. I also just needed a big mindset change. I had similar ideas to you work at had to be 45 minutes or bust sweating. Heart rate up. And now I'm like, you know what would feel good? Some yoga with Adrianne and you know, I feel good. I'll walk with my dog. I'm just kidding. Walking a French bulldog is no joke.

    But, um, yeah, just sometimes I know you're all, a lot of you are listening. If you are pushing a stroller or trying to get small children all the way to school and you're walking, you are doing a workout. That is a sweaty time. Oh. Big time. Especially today. It was 45 degrees in Ontario. So yes, this one makes me laugh.

    Um, how do I do it all? Ha ha. Very sweet, kind clients had asked me this a couple of weeks ago. Yeah. Um, I don't. Nobody does. Instagram is an illusion and I'm not even on there because I can't do it all. Okay. Um, yeah, I think in the wise words of Emma Jack, if she's listening to this, you have to keep your glass balls in the air and let the rubber ones bounce.

    There's a lot of bouncing happening over here. Yes. Yeah. I've also heard, I think it's the movement maestro, another one of my mentors. She always talks about, there's no such thing as balance. It's more a verb. It's balancing. So balancing lets you understand that things are going to shift and change. Right?

    So one week, um, priority number one might be, you know, family, I guess family should always be high up there, but yeah, you know, if there's a lot going on with your family, then maybe your exercise routine might fall off a bit. Maybe your eating might not be as good, um, maybe working, you know, so it's like every week.

    And then if you have a lot of work stuff going on, you might need to shift those things, right? So it's a, it's a balancing act, I guess, more than just like, this is the balance. And this is what I'm going to do every single day, every single week. Um, it always changes and, uh, yeah, it's, it's impossible to do it all.

    You just can't. You absolutely can't. And as we are recording this, I actually had to say to myself on Monday, this is just a zero workout week. I'm taking it off my plate. I've got lots going on with my kids. I knew we were recording tonight. I've got a busy work week at, uh, work and got some family stuff for father's day coming up this weekend.

    And it's just not. It's stressing me out more than going to cause me joy this week. So this week exercise is not on my list and that's fine. It will be next week. Exactly. Yeah. Consistency. I always say that to clients like consistency doesn't necessarily mean you have to be consistent every single week.

    It's more over the grand scheme of life or the year. Right. So yeah, you are consistent. Even if you miss a week here and there, right? It's not the end of the world. And I think that's such a good thing that you just decided beginning of the week. I'm not going to do it. Cause I think sometimes the stress comes from like the debilitate, like the deliberation of like, should I, shouldn't I, should I, shouldn't I.

    So it's like, sometimes if you know, it's a stressful day, just make up your mind. I'm not working out today and have that be okay. That was a big thing for me again, when I was, you know, feeling like I had to work out five days a week, I made a decision. And I'm still doing that where I'm like, no, I'm only working out three days a week.

    And just taking that mental load of like that every day, like, Oh, should I, shouldn't I? Like, Nope, today's a rest day. And it just feels so much better. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Okay. All right. Uh, next one. Um, so if I have pelvic floor muscle symptoms, should I avoid exercise running or weightlifting? Um, I love this question.

    And again, this is something you and I talk a lot about, and it's sort of like, uh, the bread and butter of our podcast. Um, the short answer is no. So, um, symptoms we talk about on the podcast is just our body's way of talking to us and telling us how it's doing. It doesn't mean it's dangerous. It doesn't mean, um, it's, you know, bad things are happening to your body.

    It's just your body's way of being like, nudge, nudge, you know, I might be feeling a certain way. And so there is something to be said about, um, finding an exercise routine that doesn't exacerbate those symptoms, right? So, um, again, it depends on what you're doing, but I would say, you know, working with a pelvic floor physio or a postpartum fitness coach can really help with this and sort of mitigate that fear that you might have about making those symptoms worse.

    Um, but yeah, it is highly possible to get moving. Uh, sometimes even starting to move can actually help with symptoms, which people don't, uh, really think about. They think, oh, it's just gonna make it worse. But sometimes it's the lack of movement that our body's saying like, okay, you need to move a little bit and you're gonna feel a little bit better.

    So, yeah, just finding that right stimulus for your body that, um, doesn't make those symptoms worse is the trick. Absolutely. And I think being okay with having it maybe, or being okay with your exercise routine, routine, pardon me, having to shift sometimes. Uh, a lot of clients, their symptoms are based on their cycle or, you know, their stress level.

    And I know, you know, we have to, the research report or supports working out or, you know, moving your body to help mitigate stress, but maybe we do. You know, if you're someone who gets symptoms when you're highly stressed, we're going to work on that down training, some of those yoga poses, things like that, that is exercise.

    So sometimes I think it's just sort of, again, the easy answer is no, you don't have to stop exercising. If you have. symptoms. Sometimes I think it's just a little bit of an adjustment. So strategies, like you said, within your exercise, or maybe we just like work in a different kind of activity, um, around your cycle or your stress and what makes you feel good in that moment.

    Yep. Yep. That's good. Okay. This is a big one. I get asked this one a lot. Um, if I have a pro. Should I avoid sex? Again, the easy answer is no, not necessarily. It's not a contraindication. If you have a prolapse of your bladder, your cervix, or your rectum, those are the three pelvic organs that could be prolapsed.

    It's not a direct contraindication. to have intercourse. Um, but pain could be. So if you're someone who has any sort of pain with your prolapse, I would typically not always related more to maybe those cervical ones, just because the cervix, it tends to be a little bit more sensitive. Then we want to be trying some different strategies for you to have comfortable intercourse in that.

    In that, um, sense, but in general, no, if you have a bladder or a rectal prolapse, especially those generally don't hinder or impede successful penetration at all. And in some cases. Some people can actually find that their symptoms of that heaviness or that tampon type feeling can be relieved after having intercourse.

    Um, just intercourse in general, we don't want to be pushing through any sort of discomfort. We want to have muscles at the end of the day that are able to relax and accommodate of penetration is the key is the goal. And so, um, really pushing through any sort of discomfort or pain isn't advised. So just, you know, use a nice water based lubricant and, um, play around with different positions that feel most comfortable for you.

    I would say that's more important than just full, um, avoidance. If you do have a prolapse, a lot of people are maybe self conscious, which I think we, um, can You know, we can chat a little bit about most partners aren't going to even notice with the degree of prolapse that a lot of people have. I know, but that can be a barrier for some.

    So there's, again, I encourage you to chat with a public floor or internal therapist. If you are worried about like, which organ is prolapsed and what does that mean for intercourse? Obviously each body is different. Um, but there also have been times where I have referred on to, um, Like a mental health professional or even a sex therapist, if I think it's a little bit more, um, outside of the pelvic floor, physical, you know, physical, can we achieve penetration realm?

    Yeah. And that makes sense. I was just thinking that because a lot of it could be just the mental, the stress of it alone could cause again, like that tightening of the pelvic floor. So, you know, if someone's afraid of pain, it might not necessarily be the prolapse that's causing the pain more. Just the clenching of the pelvic floor muscles that's causing pain.

    So that would be more, yeah, like a mental health thing where just, you know, reminding yourself that yeah, it's safe and it's not harmful. And yeah, just working on the relaxation piece before you have sex, I guess, would be part of that too. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. If, if you like you and again, you know, if you want to, then it's, it's generally totally safe to do so.

    Um, But if you're just not there bandwidth wise also just wait until you feel a little bit like you have some energy for it and get it. That's one thing I talk a lot about with clients is you don't have to have sex at six, six weeks just because you got the air quote clearance. Um, sometimes I find when we just take that off the table for people their prolapse symptoms actually settle because it's coming from pelvic floor tension and then they feel more comfortable to have intercourse as well.

    So. It's so true. Cause yeah, even symptomatic wise, like I know for myself, I was, you know, very prolapsed symptomatic eight to 10, maybe 12 weeks. And then after that, it started to taper off and I don't think the grade of my prolapse necessarily changed, but just the symptoms themselves started to change.

    So yeah, just like you said, just taking it off the table and, you know, saying, you know, maybe a month from now we'll think about it again, but yeah, it's, it's your body, you know, you have control over what's going to feel right for you. Absolutely. Yes. All right. So the last two questions here are more kind of fun ones to finish off.

    So the first one is what is your guilty pleasure? I'll let you go first, Dayna. Bad TV. Ah, that's mine too. I love a good Bachelor, Bachelorette. What was the one we were just watching? Um, The Ultimatum on Netflix. Pardon me if you're listening to this, uh, Vanessa Lachey, but I love stuff like that. Yes. Love is blind.

    Love is blind. Yep. Yeah. I am a sucker for, I, I talk about this on Instagram and everyone's like, Oh, me too. Um, like Jersey shore, teen mom, those are kind of my, the MTV ones too, I get suckered into as well. And, uh, it's just fascinating. I feel like just watching people's lives and, you know, especially ones that show up on, um, reality TV, I'm like, it takes a special person and, uh, it's just very entertaining to watch.

    It is so entertaining. It's fascinating. Basically any TV that makes my husband roll his eyes, I am here for. I'm here for it. Yes, me too. Love it. So that's yours as well? Yeah, that's mine as well. Yeah, the, uh, the trash TV. That's, uh, what was going to be mine too. All right. And last but, uh, not least, what is your favourite go to snack?

    Healthy, unhealthy, anything? So I would say right now it's interesting because as time goes on, I still have a sweet tooth, but my, my cravings at night is more changing to like savory more than sweet. I still like sweets, but I think part of that is like. Dropping diet culture because for the longest time I like wouldn't let myself have like sweets in the house.

    So then when I did, it was like, ah, and so now, now that I like, I have them in the house and it doesn't necessarily tempt me as much anymore. Now I'm finding I'm craving more savory. So right now I am obsessed with jalapeno cheddar Doritos. They are so good. I pretty much get them every week. Um, a little bit of spice.

    I love a little bit of kick, so that is my go to for chips. And then, again, I still have that sweet tooth. My forever go to is mini eggs. You and I are kind of similar with that one. That's like, you know, it doesn't have to be Easter, just any time of year. I love mini eggs. Mini eggs are life for sure. Um, that would be my, again, air quotes, unhealthy snack.

    I eat chocolate most days of the week. Um, it's a part of who I am. Um, my favorite healthy snack is an Aussie bite. If you know, you know, you get them at Costco. I was educating Rhonda about them prior to this recording. They're basically little energy ball type things that you get at Costco and they're amazing.

    And. Yeah, they keep you full a little bit longer, which for me is a little bit of a feat. I tend to be a bit of a hummingbird. Yeah. Every hour and a half. Yeah, that's good. I need to try these. Aussie, Aussie Bites? Is that what you said? Aussie Bites. It's like Australian, like A U S S I E Bites. Okay, I need to try them.

    Aussie Bites. I love it. That's so good. Well, this was fun, Dayna. I can't believe it's already been a year of recording. We did it. We did it. Yeah, I feel like it was, you know, we, it was in the talks for a while and uh, Yeah, I'm proud of us for making it happen and it's been fun. And I hope all of you listening have got something out of this past year.

    We're going to keep going, so it's not the end of the road. Um, but we just thought we'd do a one year sort of celebration episode, just with some fun questions. Yes, thanks for joining in the last year. We've had a lot of fun with these episodes and please, if you have any questions or comments, always comment in the, you know, wherever you listen to your podcast or find Rhonda on Instagram.

    She's definitely way more likely to respond than me. I am on there but anywho. Yes. Thanks for joining us. Thanks for listening to today's podcast. We hope you enjoyed the conversation. If you liked what you heard, we would love if you could share this with a friend, leave us a review, or subscribe to anywhere that you listen to your podcasts.

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