Episode #40: The 3 things that surprised us the most about postpartum
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In this episode, Dayna and Rhonda each share the 3 things that surprised us most during the postpartum phase:
Dayna’s 3 things were:
1️⃣ How overwhelmed she was with having visitors
2️⃣ How challenging breastfeeding was for her mentally
3️⃣ How lonely maternity leave can be
Rhonda’s 3 things were:
1️⃣ How challenging her second postpartum recovery was after an “easier” recovery after her first
2️⃣ How challenging naps with babies would be
3️⃣ That both of her daughters refused to sleep in the car
This was a fun episode to record to reminisce about our challenging postpartum experiences!
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Mentioned in this episode:
🔹 Episode #27: The 3 things that surprised us the most during pregnancy
🔹 Renee Reina on Instagram
🔹 The Mom Room Podcast
🔹 Rhonda’s email list
🔹 Rhonda’s Cyber Monday Sale
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Episode #40: The 3 things that surprised us the most about postpartum
We're excited to have you join us for this episode of Pelvic Health and Fitness. I'm Dayna Morellato, Mom, Orthopedic and Pelvic Health Physiotherapist. And I'm Rhonda Chamberlain, Mom, Orthopedic Physiotherapist and Pre Postnatal Fitness Coach. On this show, we have open and honest conversations about all phases of motherhood, including fertility, pregnancy, birth, postpartum, menopause, and everything in between.
We also provide helpful education and information on fitness, the pelvic floor, and many aspects of women's health, including physical, mental, and emotional wellness. Please remember as you listen to this podcast that this is not meant to treat or diagnose any medical conditions. Please contact your medical provider if you have specific questions or concerns.
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Hey, podcast friends, Rhonda here. Before we get into today's episode, a couple of things. First of all, with this episode, Dayna and I tried a new platform to record the podcast. It didn't go as great as we would have expected. So I apologize in advance if it's a little bit choppier than what you're used to.
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com forward slash Cyber Monday to check out the deals. All right, here we go. Let's get into today's episode Hey everybody and welcome back to another episode of the pelvic health and fitness podcast Tonight Dayna and I are going to do another Fun little episode talking about the three things that surprised us the most during postpartum.
So we did a previous episode about our, the things that surprised us during pregnancy. So now we're going to try to talk about postpartum. So Dayna, do you want to start off with the first thing that surprised you most about your postpartum experience? Yes, for sure. I think, I mean, there were a lot to choose from in terms of things that surprised me for my own self, things that surprised me with a baby.
The thing that I wasn't expecting at all, especially the first time around, was how overwhelmed I was with people wanting to visit. Like, I thought, or you see it, or maybe I'd even been to visit babies. I just sort of, kind of assumed that I would want people around all the time, and I'd want to show off my baby, and I'd want to just be with people.
I'm on mat leave, I've got all this free time, and I, for the first six weeks, literally would have been okay if my mom came every couple days. I just wanted to be on my own really to sort of figure it out or at the very least like have fewer things. I remember one day in particular and everybody was very well intentioned.
So if you are a family or friend and you're listening to this, it's not that I didn't appreciate it. Of course it just was. I was overwhelmed with the number of people and how long people were staying. Yeah. You know, I haven't, I wasn't sleeping. I was recovering myself. I was trying to figure out breastfeeding and my first Cara, she was a lengthy feeder, so it would take quite a while to feed.
I, especially with her, with my first in the beginning was not somebody who was comfortable to just breastfeed in a room full of people. So I wanted to be up in her nursery by myself and then you feel awkward because everybody's hanging around downstairs and you're trying to figure out a latch and what am I even doing and is she getting enough and I was so overwhelmed and then it would come out as like little rage attacks at my husband every time he would be like, you know, so and so's gonna stop by and I think for him it was sort of exciting and he wanted to show her off and I really just wanted it to be quiet.
Yes, I can relate so much to that and like I talked about on this podcast my struggles with breastfeeding and I think same as you, I didn't feel comfortable just breastfeeding openly in front of others. So yeah, I felt like trying to time visits was challenging for me, right? Like I You know, wanted to try to feed before somebody came over, but as we know, that never works out.
And yeah, I can relate to that so much. And, uh, you and I talk about Renee Rina. She, uh, the mom room podcast. And she. She talks a lot about this and that, yeah, it's okay to set that boundary as a new mom of no visitors or only certain visitors or after a certain amount of time it's okay to have visitors, but it's so hard when we, yeah, we're like people pleasers or it's like certain family members, but I think mom at the end of the day should have like the last call on that.
Absolutely, and the other thing too is like when people are in your house for a certain amount of time and they happen to be staying over a meal, there's now this expectation that you're supposed to feed them and that happened a few times and I just remember thinking this is so backwards, like we're not hosting a party, like we're trying, we haven't slept, you know, I, as I was a pelvic physio at the time too and I was thinking like I'm not standing in the kitchen to make a meal.
Um, So yeah, I think I was just surprised at how, like, I just wanted fewer people. And I remember in particular one person texting me while I was breastfeeding and upstairs breastfeeding and she just, like, the message said, Hey, I left food on your porch. I'm no longer there. This was a mom of three. Um, I'm no longer there.
I didn't want you to feel like you had to visit with me when you're ready. Let me know and I'll come by and meet her. And I broke down sobbing at the kindness of that and the understanding in that moment, I felt seen. I was like, she knows exactly how I'm feeling. Yeah. Yeah. And it's, it's hard, right? Cause I feel like, you know, if you're a first time mom or you're someone that doesn't have kids.
You might not understand that right? And so as much as you don't want the kind of the burden to be on the mom to like set that boundary, you kind of have to have it be that way, right? Oh, for sure. And it's all well intentioned and I certainly appreciate that. And I would have probably stayed longer, um, visiting my friends and family members prior to having my kids, but now I sort of have this, rule where we do the same thing as this really lovely friend of mine did.
We make a lasagna and maybe some muffins. We drop it on the porch and we text the person after we've left. So they do not feel any, um, like we do that. We try to do that in the first couple of weeks and then when they're ready, I'll go for a visit and I stay for 30 minutes and then I'm out. Yeah, yeah, that's so good.
Yeah. Yeah, it's again. It's a hard boundary to set but uh, Yeah, I think over time. Hopefully this will get better when people start to understand That, yeah, it's not easy having people over. Did you do a better job of that the second time after Nolan? Um, yes. I, I, that was definitely something that Ian and I chatted about, uh, before having Nolan was at least trying to break up who was coming in a day so we didn't feel, like, either we're having a few people over at one time, but only one visit a day.
Was sort of the rule and not every day, like let's base it out based on and it's okay to say no, I feel like that was something that we both worked on because we're people pleasers, both my husband and I, I don't think he would admit that he is, but he is, um, we had to say no a couple of times. Yeah, yeah.
Not today. Not today. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Love it. So my first one, and this is something I talk about a lot on the podcast, is just the fact that I did have sort of more of that like textbook recovery after Sadie, um, was able to get back to exercise relatively quickly without any symptoms and that sort of reinforced my bias that, oh, it's because I was strong, I was fit, I worked out throughout my pregnancy, that must be why.
Getting back to exercise was so easy quote unquote and then the second time around after Tegan tried to do the same thing and Yeah, I dealt with heaviness, prolapse symptoms, abdominal cramping like you know just my body just wasn't ready the second time and that threw me for a loop because I Then I felt so lost because it's like I did you know A, B, and C the first time and it was fine I did A, B, and C the second time and it was not fine, so what do I do now?
And truthfully that, like, my business is, is built off of that message and off of that experience. And, yeah, that is, you know, what I hope to help women with is navigate getting back to exercise slowly, progressively, so that you don't have that, hopefully, sudden flare up of symptoms where your body's just not ready yet.
And so, yeah, I think it's just that reinforcement of that message of You know, even if you're fit, even if you're strong, you're healthy, you do everything right. You just never know how your body is going to respond and you never know how your healing journey is going to go in that postpartum period.
Absolutely, and I hear from a lot of clients, and I, I know we've talked about this before, is it can feel super defeating because if you do, quote, all the right things, we're sort of We have this expectation and we tell people to expect well you did all these right things during pregnancy So you should be able to you know, get back to all your activities You're gonna you know bounce that baby right out and then you'll be back to whatever and so if you're not it can sort of It like flips you your identity almost on its head.
Like what am I even doing? Exactly. And yeah, that was my experience 100 percent that yeah I was so excited and ready to get back into CrossFit back to working out because that was part of my identity and so Yeah, when I was in this sort of limbo zone of being kind of afraid to work out because I didn't want those symptoms to Get worse, but also wanting to do something that was a really confusing time for me and you know, i'm thankful in the end because it forced me to Have a hard look at like who am I as a person?
Because yeah, like there's gonna be phases in my life where I can't work out And I can't let that determine my worth and my value. And so, yeah. Yeah. So it was like a good learning experience, but also frustrating, but I think again, it's important part of the journey. I use your saying all the time with clients now where you say, um, you have to go slow to go fast.
Yeah. The slow road to recovery is actually faster in the end. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. That's a great one. What's your second one? My second one is sort of like double edged and it was a little bit different for both of them, but Breastfeeding. I I think a lot of people will say yes initially But hear me out.
My experience was different I was very lucky and that I was able to breastfeed both my children and we did well with it But my first time around again, I had a lot of postpartum anxiety and And a little bit of postpartum rage if we're being completely honest and breastfeeding was really hard Like my rational brain would look at my baby and say she's a happy kid.
She's growing She seems you know, like she's doing well But my irrational or my anxiety brain couldn't let go of the fact that I had no idea how much she was getting I was like You know with a bottle you can measure it they're getting 20 ounces or whatever and I was obsessively in the beginning sort of timing each side and like then if it was less like it was crazy in the beginning and I was so in my own head about it and I would took I took myself to like the.
City of London breastfeeding clinics and the lovely nurses there would reassure me. And then I paid for a lactation consultant appointment and I had her look at me and be like, I don't know what the problem is here. And I still couldn't just sink into it. So it caused me a ton of anxiety even though it was for all intents and purposes going fine.
So that really shocked me. Yeah. Yeah. The second time around, my son, he came out and was just a tank of a feeder from the get go. So I did have the benefit of being a second time around. I had been through this. I sort of knew what I was doing a little bit more. So it's. easier when one part of the pair is a little bit more experienced.
Um, and he gained weight like crazy. So it was easier for me, I think the second time, even though my first gain fine, but for him, what was really challenging and surprised me was I had heard of cluster feeding, but I didn't, maybe I wasn't reading my daughter's cues well enough the first time. She definitely did it a couple of times, but my son did it.
Every day for the first eight weeks of his life. Wow. From six until nine p. m., basically, he would eat every 20 minutes. Basically. Like 20 to 30 minutes for two to three hours every night. I think there was like maybe a handful of nights in those first eight weeks that he didn't. But. It was crazy. I basically, I went to a wedding one time, I remember, he was probably six weeks old and I think people thought I was crazy.
He would start to fuss, I would take him back, he would drain both, both boobs, and then be a happy camper for 25 minutes, and then he would lose his GD mind again, and we would do all the things, change his bum, bump him, you know, whatever, maybe he's hot, nope, feed him, he would drain both boobs again. And like, it was Cluster feeding and it was hard and exhausting every night.
Yeah. Oh my goodness. So that was sort of my experience and the things that blew my mind about breastfeeding and I know I'm very lucky to have had been able to do it and I wanted to be able to so I felt good about it but it's not, it wasn't mentally easy for me. Yeah. And I think that's so important to share and we kind of touched on this before we started recording that I think so many stories we hear the black and white versions right like we hear like my story which went like horribly wrong and I stopped breastfeeding and then we hear the people that are like oh it's so natural it was so easy you know baby just latched and it was so beautiful like we kind of hear the extremes but I think those like in between conversations and Those middle ground experiences are so important to talk about, and it's that both and, right?
It's like, yes, I was lucky, and I like, you know, was able to breastfeed, and it was mentally exhausting and so hard and not what I expected, right? Like, both experiences can coexist, so. Yeah, I think that's so important to share. Yeah, for sure. And the other thing too with my first was like I've got all this anxiety about You know, I don't know how much she's getting and I know the obvious answer is we'll pump and feed her a bottle She refused to take a bottle for eight months.
I remember that I tried every bottle Yeah, I tried every bottle. I had some lovely girlfriends who lovely, who, um, very lovingly handed me a bag of bottles so I didn't have to spend a fortune, but we tried every single bottle and she would not take anything for eight months, other than my breast. That's so hard.
So it was mentally tough for me. Yes, totally. Yep. And I think so many people will listen to this podcast and relate to that story, Dayna. Yeah. Okay. How about you? What's your number two? Yeah. So number two, my number two and three are sort of similar and, um, it's in regards to my kids. And the first, the second one is that I didn't recognize.
How challenging and important napping was with kids and so yes, yeah I feel like going into having kids all these things that you imagine just seems so easy, right? like you just I just imagine and maybe I had friends that had babies that You put them in the little swing and you put them in the little rocker and they just fall asleep and they're so cute And you know or you like hold them and they're just fast asleep on your shoulder Sadie was not that baby from day one Maybe not from day one the first like maybe the first six weeks she was that way and then all of a sudden she flipped the switch and she was like I don't want any of this like, you know didn't Hated the swing hated the bouncy chair hate like honestly even like holding her and like trying to soothe her she would just like Writhe and wiggle and like didn't want anything to do with any of that And yeah, so to try to get that child to nap and go to sleep at night Was So challenging and yeah, like I just remember thinking like, do I not have this in me?
Like, is this something I'm doing wrong? Do I not have like some maternal gene that I'm supposed to have to like have this baby peacefully fall asleep on my shoulder? Like what is wrong with me? And obviously that wasn't my fault. And. Jay had the same problem too, right? Like all of, you know, anyone that tried to soothe her, she just was a very challenging baby to soothe.
And so we, yeah, we worked with a sleep consultant and Um, you know, there's differing opinions on that approach, but we worked with someone that sort of just helped us understand napping and helped us understand the importance of like having somewhat of a schedule, you know, noticing her wake times, because I think because we struggled to get her to nap, she probably was awake for far too long.
So then when we try to get her down for a nap, she was like beyond exhausted. And so we, you know, had to play around with that. She, still to this day, is a very, like, needy sleeper, I would say. So, you know, she needed blackout curtains, she liked a sound machine, she liked all these, like, things to help her settle.
And once we figured all that out, then she became a really great sleeper, a great napper. But I, yeah, I didn't go into parenting realizing how much of a struggle that was gonna be. Oh, for sure. And I, you're, you're right. I think too, like, before, sometimes I wonder myself for sure this was part of it, or what you see people doing before you have kids, you sort of don't want to let go of it.
some of your lifestyle. I think if we're honest, we want to be on the go. And so you're like, Oh, the baby, it's a baby. It'll just sleep when we go. But really, like, it can be shocking to find out that like, no, those naps are pretty, pretty important. And it's interesting because like Sadie, obviously, like you guys were trying to do all the soothing things, the things that were taught that you should do for babies.
And she very obviously, she wanted the noise cancellation and the blackout curtains and like less stimulation. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. She's like my FOMO kid. Like, yeah. If she, if there's stuff going on, like there's no way she'll sleep that will, I'll get into that on my third one too, because yeah, like she just needed to be like in a room by herself and just like settle on her own.
Yeah. Yeah. Sleep. That's also something I, this isn't one of my official ones, but I really wish people would stop asking, Oh, are they sleeping through the night? For one, I think biologically, it's not even expected that they'll sleep through the night until, I don't know what the age is, but it's certainly not by, you know, eight weeks.
And I remember Kara was eight months old. I was at a stroller boot camp and I was like, Oh, she's still getting up once or twice in the night. And like all the mums were like, Oh, yeah, my baby is too. And it hit me that the problem was me. Yeah. I was still super stressed that we were getting up twice in the night and that was actually just normal.
Yeah. I didn't know. Oh yeah. I didn't know. I know. Again, it's like all the extreme examples, right? Of like, yeah, these, you know, women that you see online that, yeah, like my baby slept from day one through the night. Right. And it's like, we can't compare ourselves. Every baby is different. Every experience is going to be different.
Oh man. And sleep deprivation is real. It's just, there's nothing, it's awful. So if you are in that space, we hear you. That time is hard. It will get better. Yes. Yeah, we're on the other side of it now. Sadie's now a good sleeper, right? She is, yeah. She's still, yeah, she's still again like, I just call her like a picky sleeper.
Like she, she has her little flashlight, she has her stuffies arranged a certain way. Like she's a very OCD sleeper, like needs Everything's set up a certain way to fall asleep, whereas Teagan, it's like night Teagan, night, and she's like, out like a light, like doesn't need any of these, yeah, and like even Sadie had, I remember, Sadie was probably Teagan's age, or maybe a bit younger, she was like two, just over two, and she had this little baby with like a blanket.
And she'd have to, like, wrap the blanket around baby a certain way and, like, put baby beside her. Like, just so particular. But that was what she needed. It's like a little bedtime routine for her. Like, you know, we have our certain things we like to do to fall asleep. And she just had very particular steps to follow to fall asleep.
And that's just her. I know. It's cute once you figure it out. It's not super cute before that when you're very tired. And what's your last one, Dayna? My third one, I don't mean to be like very melancholy about this, but, um, it's going to seem kind of contradictory to my first one, but is how lonely mat leave can be.
Yeah. You spend all day with this tiny human. So you assume that like, how could you ever be lonely? Because on the other end of the thing, I didn't want visitors. And then, you know, you can feel touched out by the end of the day. Okay. But. There's like you spend most of the time with a small human who can't interact back or give you like much either So sometimes it's like a very isolating type feeling and I was surprised by that.
Yeah. Yeah, I Agree. Yeah, I remember so my husband who's a firefighter works 24 hour shifts and Yeah, the days that he would be working were so long and so lonely and Sadie was born in October So it was like around this time of year so that like the days got dark same with you Right, your kids were born like end of the year too.
And so yeah, it gets so dark and so quiet and so lonely And yeah, you think yeah, you have this little baby. How could you be lonely? But We need that adult stimulation and we need we needed a break too, right? I think it's just the the grind of like caring for a child and it's like you just Need something To distract you from that and yeah that loneliness is real Yeah, for sure.
And I, I, many times, especially more so this, the second time I would get comments. My mom would say it to me often, or you get sort of the like idea of like, I don't understand why you do so much with your kids. Like, don't you just stay home with them? Like you don't have to go out for one. I need to burn the toddler's energy.
Okay. That's one thing to do. Staying in a house all day with kids.
I don't mean to be melodramatic here, but like I would much rather go out and at least be like stimulating them and also satisfying that need for me to be out. Yes. Um, then just be like, and don't get me wrong, like, especially now, like to have a day at home with my kids is fine every now and then it doesn't happen.
But when you're on mat leave and that's. Um, so I'm going to be doing this every day. No I wanted to be out and I, because it helped combat some of that loneliness. Even better if we met a friend out or something like that. Um, but my second time I didn't really have, I had a couple friends on that leave.
But I mean, we both had, we all had a couple of kids. It was hard to like coordinate schedules. Right. So we would go to the children's museum a lot and we would interact with the nice people there. And that sort of made me feel a little less lonely, but the first time, especially like when you get, you know, into a nap schedule and I feel like you get, can get nap trapped and then you're just like.
Yeah, it's lonely. It can be lonely. Yeah, no, I agree for sure. I don't know if I'm articulating it very well, but it can be lonely. Oh, yes. No, and I, same as you, like, I always was one to try to do outings when I could, and yeah, still to this day, like, same as you, like, you know, we have days where we're home, but I much prefer to have something in the day to get us out of the house and yeah I think my kids are similar.
Maybe I sort of like raised them that way to really need an outing but um, yeah, I think just having something that breaks up the monotony of Home life is is important to our family. That's for sure. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Okay. What's your final one? yeah, so the last one sort of goes along the same lines as my second one about sleeping and Yeah, I just remember, you know going into having kids everyone talking about how kids just sleep in the car So well like if you you know if you need to go somewhere go during nap time because they'll just sleep the whole time and that was Not my kids.
Both girls were with me. They did not sleep in the car and like it's almost hard to describe because people like we would tell people and they're like But wait, no, like no, they would just fall asleep, right? I'm like no, they screamed bloody murder If we were going on a trip somewhere, it was horrible.
And so yeah, my husband's family lives about an hour and a half drive away. So many drives where, like, it was just we, Jay and I would look at each other like, is this our life? Like, what is happening? And, like, nothing, you know, like, yeah, like, yeah, and they, you know, they're at the age now, like, at least now, as older kids, like, you can give them snacks and you can give them the iPad and, you know, you have all these things to help, but, like, Yeah, when they're little, little, there's not much you can do.
There's not, you know, you just kind of have to like accept the fact that they're gonna be screaming. And so, so we would do the opposite. Instead of, you know, going somewhere during nap time, we would make sure to get somewhere for nap time so then we can put them down for the nap. Wherever we ended up going or have them nap and then immediately leave and go somewhere So at least they're hopefully happy and not miserable during the car ride But yeah I think it was probably like around a year for each of them that they kind of broke out of that phase And yeah, I remember the second time with Teagan looking at Jay It was probably like first car ride where she didn't scream and I was like, oh my goodness is this the end like touch wood and yeah, it just got better from there, but Yeah, I have a client right now that is the same her I think her son's like six months six months old And he also doesn't sleep in the car like screams in the car.
I'm like, oh my gosh. I'm not alone So if you're listening and you have kids that hated sleeping in the car Um, message me because it seems like there's not many of us. Yeah, you need a support group. I remember that. I remember you saying that all the time, and I thought, oh my gosh, maybe his family should come to you for a while.
That sounds awful because being in a car with a screaming child has got to be close to insanity. It feels like you're losing your mind. Yeah, it is. Yeah, because there's not a lot you can do. No, like exactly like you said, it's not like you can, Hey, Hey baby, here's your bear paw, you know, so you have to, you have to wait until they're old enough to have a snack and distract them.
Nolan, Kara was always great in the car. Nolan, um, if he was sleeping, he was fine. If he was not sleeping, he was screaming. So I feel he would sleep though. Uh, just if we got stuck on the, in traffic or something like that on the 401. And he woke up, he would, it was either sleep or scream. So I can appreciate the screaming portion of it.
Although we did get some of the naps sometimes. And it's funny, like now that my kids are older, now they'll consciously, Sadie will say to me, mommy, I think I'm going to have a nap on the drive home. I'm like, okay, good job. Now they'll like consciously decide to nap. I'm like, oh, this is nice. Yeah. Isn't it so funny that she will nap now?
Yes. Yes. I know. It's like, what has changed? Yeah. What happened? I don't know. It'd be interesting to like, sometimes I wonder when they're in those buckets and this is just me. I don't know if there's anything to this, people, this, but like, I wonder if some babies get carsick being backwards. Maybe. And that's why they're so unhappy.
Maybe. I don't know. Just as someone who gets car sick as an adult, that's something that's developed for me. I often think about that with the kids who are rear facing and I know it's for safety, don't turn your babies around, I'm not suggesting that. Yeah. But it always makes me wonder if it's like an inner ear thing.
Yeah, that is funny because I feel like both of my kids, and I thought maybe it was just an age thing, but Once we did turn them around, they seemed better in the car, but maybe whether that's coincidence or whether that's just, they just aged out of that. Hard to say. I don't know. I've always wondered.
Yeah, I feel like, I feel like knowing Sadie and like talking about my second point again, like her sleep and her picky sleep habits. To me it made sense that like if you're not comfortable and there's too much stimulation and like the radio's playing, she couldn't sleep. Like that's what I kind of took it as for her.
And, but Tegan, Tegan's a better sleeper I would say in that she's not as picky, but. Yeah, maybe they both were just kind of like, they just needed their bed, they needed a comfy spot, just couldn't get comfortable in the car. Yeah. Yeah, who knows? Who knows? But those are ours. Yeah, you heard something familiar and you're not alone with whatever you're feeling.
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